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			 by birddog114 on Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:25 am  
			
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This is the last mini meet in Sydney in the month of August. The next mini meet will be in September.
 As usual:
 D2x workshop at 00:00 am
 Sigma mass is at the early hour of the day 2:00am
 VR "Temple pray and blessing" at 4:00am host by VR gurus 
 Saturday regular mini meet is from  8:00am - 01:00pm 
- CCD cleaning session, learn and DIY. 
 - Check and evaluate gears as lens, tripod, head 
 - Talking about photography including  PS and Pping, lens and gears.
 Stock of parts & accessories are available onsite:
1/2/4Gb Transcend 80x CF cards 
 Lowepro minitrekker
 Giotto Air Rocket + Bubble Level Spirit (limited stock) and won't have it until December at Xmas party when stock is sold out.
 DK-17M, DK19 for D2x
 Rubber eyecup, ML3 remote for D70/ D50
 Pec* Pad
 Pure methanol (100ml/member) bring your own container and  playing with it at your own risk.
All welcome!!!!!!!  
                  
            
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			 by stubbsy on Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:58 am  
			
            I'll be there. Plus I have a slice to bring to have with coffee. 
                  
            
		 
		
			
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			 by joet on Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:17 pm  
			
            Stubbsy
 
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			 by rokkstar on Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:55 pm  
			
            I'll be there too.
 Was wondering if any members with an sb800 might be able to give me a demonstration of the remote capabilities and general overview.
 
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			 by stubbsy on Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:58 pm  
			
            rokkstar wrote:I'll be there too. Was wondering if any members with an sb800 might be able to give me a demonstration of the remote capabilities and general overview.
  Cheers  
Matt I'll have my SB800 with me. You're welcome to have a play, but I know very little about it since i've only just got it.  
                  
            
		 
		
			
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			 by gstark on Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:02 pm  
			
            rokkstar wrote:I'll be there too. Was wondering if any members with an sb800 might be able to give me a demonstration of the remote capabilities and general overview.
  Cheers  
We can all work together on this.    
                  
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			 by birddog114 on Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:33 pm  
			
            We will have special playing for this SB800 based on Thom Hogan ebook. 
                  
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			 by wendellt on Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:40 pm  
			
            I will also be interested in getting a brief overview on the SB800, as i will be purchasing one on the day.
 I would also like to compare the 17-55DX to the 28-70 f2.8 but i think i have made up my mind with getting the 17-55DX 
                  
            
		 
		
			
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			 by birddog114 on Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:43 pm  
			
            wendellt wrote:I will also be interested in getting a brief overview on the SB800, as i will be purchasing one on the day.
  
 You can have the fun of playing with it onsite. I would also like to compare the 17-55DX to the 28-70 f2.8 but i think i have made up my mind with getting the 17-55DX  
No more comparison on both lenses, get the 17-55Dx or the 28-70/2.8
 You had a few plays before with the 28-70.    
                  
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			 by Nnnnsic on Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:53 pm  
			
            I'd get the 17-55. 
                  
            
		 
		
			
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			 by Alpha_7 on Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:16 pm  
			
            I don't think I can make this due to prior engagements, but I haven't found where these meetings are held ? 
                  
            
		 
		
			
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			 by Nnnnsic on Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:20 pm  
			
            PM Birddog. 
                  
            
		 
		
			
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			 by Matt. K on Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:27 pm  
			
            Matt
 I'll be happy to show you what little I know about the SB800. I can get it to work remotely...as long as I look at my little cheat sheet. 
                  
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			 by Jenno on Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:29 pm  
			
            For the "Show and Tell" segment, I'm proposing to bring;
 
   1. NextCF - Image storage device
   2. Wimberly macro flash bracket
   3. Wimberley Plamp
   4. McClamp
 
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			 by rokkstar on Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:29 pm  
			
            Excellent guys, thank you.
 I'm eventually going to get one of these bad boys, just a few pennies more, but until then I would love to see what it is capable of. 
                  
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			 by gstark on Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:40 pm  
			
            Jenno wrote:  4. McClamp  
Ray,
 Is your's supersized?
   
                  
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			 by Jenno on Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:05 pm  
			
            I wish... 
                  
            
		 
		
			
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			 by birddog114 on Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:16 pm  
			
            Some members are after the Lowepro mini trekker and Computrekker, it's time to pop in on Saturday to collect it,
 I won't order them for awhile once these lots gone. 
                  
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			 by birddog114 on Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:24 pm  
			
            stubbsy,
 Welcome you to the Gitzo + RRS BH55PRO club at the mini meet.
 Your stuffs are in my hand this morning.    
                  
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			 by Jeko70 on Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:53 pm  
			
            Hi guys,
 I think i'll be there on saturday to play with you kids and a lot of toys!
 Yeah SB800 workshop will be great!
 wendellt wrote:I will also be interested in getting a brief overview on the SB800, as i will be purchasing one on the day. I would also like to compare the 17-55DX to the 28-70 f2.8 but i think i have made up my mind with getting the 17-55DX  
Trust me neither 28-70 nore 17-55.    
I'll buy the 17-35 f2.8!    
The 28-70 is so haevy and not perfect but better then 17-55 .
 The 17-35 is one of the best lens with the 70-210 VR for sharpness and results!
 So, I'll think 3 lens! 17-35 f2.8; 50 f1.4; 70-210 VR! 
 Why? 
 Read this first 
 http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/1735.htm
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 http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/1755.htm
and if you want....... http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/2870afs.htm
If it is not enough.....just ask!       
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			 by stubbsy on Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:10 pm  
			
            Birddog114 wrote:stubbsy, Welcome you to the Gitzo + RRS BH55PRO club at the mini meet. Your stuffs are in my hand this morning.     
Hope this sub club doesn't meet at 1 am or something equally early    
                  
            
		 
		
			
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			 by birddog114 on Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:10 pm  
			
            Fab,
 No workshop of SB800 on Saturday, we're going to talk about and how to get the uses out of it.
 It's the 70-200VR not the 70-210VR, you've tried them at the mini meets before haven't you?
 Yes, the 28-70 is heavy in both sides: weight and money     same as other 17-35 or 17-55Dx, but the 17-35 is a winner in my case.  
                  
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			 by wendellt on Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:27 pm  
			
            Birddog114 wrote:Fab, No workshop of SB800 on Saturday, we're going to talk about and how to get the uses out of it. It's the 70-200VR not the 70-210VR, you've tried them at the mini meets before haven't you? Yes, the 28-70 is heavy in both sides: weight and money     same as other 17-35 or 17-55Dx, but the 17-35 is a winner in my case.   
Birddog
 I am concerned about the limited focal length of the 17-35, it's also not a DX lens so the crop factor is a big issue.
 The 17-55DX has a metal build, it has almost the same minimal focus distance than the 17-35 and has a rubber ring at the mount point to protect the lens from dust just like the 17-35 but it has 3 advantages
 1. DX format so i get a true 17-55mm
 2. Looks better
 3. More focal range
 anyway i am open if you really think the 17-35 is the best way to go.  
                  
            
		 
		
			
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			 by birddog114 on Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:39 pm  
			
            wendellt wrote:Birddog I am concerned about the limited focal length of the 17-35, 
  
 What's the limited focal lenght? 35-55, I can survive with it it's also not a DX lens so the crop factor is a big issue. 
 Who said and how do you understand this way? The 17-55DX has a metal build, it has almost the same minimal focus distance than the 17-35 and has a rubber ring at the mount point to protect the lens from dust just like the 17-35 but it has 3 advantages 1. DX format so i get a true 17-55mm 2. Looks better 3. More focal range anyway i am open if you really think the 17-35 is the best way to go.  
1/ No, you still have to work with 1.5x crop factor
 2/ Look the same, 17-55Dx is lighter, cheaper built than the 17-35
 3/ Focal lenght, 35-55/ who cares and I can survive with it
 4/ 17-35 has more minimal of focus distance than the 17-55Dx
 5/ 17-35 can use on film camera or future full frame DSLR
 Your choice and judgement, not mine, if you can make up your mind. You had tried the 17-35 more than 10 times at the mini meets and you know what you should get.  
                  
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			 by wendellt on Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:44 pm  
			
            Bottom line is the 17-35 sharper than the 17-55 throughout the zoom range? 
                  
            
		 
		
			
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			 by birddog114 on Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:46 pm  
			
            wendellt wrote:Bottom line is the 17-35 sharper than the 17-55 throughout the zoom range?  
Not true! each lens has its own sweet spot! try and learn it!  
                  
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			 by Heath Bennett on Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:08 pm  
			
            wendellt wrote:Birddog114 wrote:Fab, No workshop of SB800 on Saturday, we're going to talk about and how to get the uses out of it. It's the 70-200VR not the 70-210VR, you've tried them at the mini meets before haven't you? Yes, the 28-70 is heavy in both sides: weight and money     same as other 17-35 or 17-55Dx, but the 17-35 is a winner in my case.  
 Birddog I am concerned about the limited focal length of the 17-35, it's also not a DX lens so the crop factor is a big issue. The 17-55DX has a metal build, it has almost the same minimal focus distance than the 17-35 and has a rubber ring at the mount point to protect the lens from dust just like the 17-35 but it has 3 advantages 1. DX format so i get a true 17-55mm 2. Looks better 3. More focal range anyway i am open if you really think the 17-35 is the best way to go.   
Don't think that not being a DX lens makes crop factor a big issue...
 It just means you are using the absolute best section of a great lens - the middle!  
                  
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			 by Heath Bennett on Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:09 pm  
			
            True birdy - the 12-24 is amazingly sharp at 24mm - more so than the 17-35 at 24mm according to naturfotograf.com 
                  
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			 by Jeko70 on Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:12 pm  
			
            Birddog114 wrote:Fab, No workshop of SB800 on Saturday, we're going to talk about and how to get the uses out of it. It's the 70-200VR not the 70-210VR, you've tried them at the mini meets before haven't you? Yes, the 28-70 is heavy in both sides: weight and money     same as other 17-35 or 17-55Dx, but the 17-35 is a winner in my case.   
Yeah, I meant 70-200 VR i don't know why wrote 210! 
 No workshop?
 Bugger, maybe playshop!    
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			 by birddog114 on Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:27 pm  
			
            Fab,
 Yep! there will be a *playshop* with the SB800, get the toys for the big boys together and we will be in the game.    
And perhaps a *drinking session* to follow after the *eating session*.  
                  
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			 by gleff on Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:03 pm  
			
            I'll be there.. looking forward to learning a bit about the SB800.      
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			 by Heath Bennett on Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:55 am  
			
            Jeko70 wrote:Hi guys, I think i'll be there on saturday to play with you kids and a lot of toys! Yeah SB800 workshop will be great! wendellt wrote:I will also be interested in getting a brief overview on the SB800, as i will be purchasing one on the day. I would also like to compare the 17-55DX to the 28-70 f2.8 but i think i have made up my mind with getting the 17-55DX 
 Trust me neither 28-70 nore 17-55.    I'll buy the 17-35 f2.8!    The 28-70 is so haevy and not perfect but better then 17-55 . The 17-35 is one of the best lens with the 70-210 VR for sharpness and results! So, I'll think 3 lens! 17-35 f2.8; 50 f1.4; 70-210 VR!  Why?  Read this first  http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/1735.htmand http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/1755.htmand if you want....... http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/2870afs.htmIf it is not enough.....just ask!       Take Care! Fab   
Ken Rockwell is very very opinionated - I take all he says with a grain of salt. THe members of the board who have the 17-55 love it. I like the idea of the 17-35 purely because it is using the centre of bigger glass.  
                  
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			 by Heath Bennett on Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:59 am  
			
            Birdy, would you be able to fit a Apple 17in Powerbook into the lowepro bags? 
                  
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			 by birddog114 on Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:10 am  
			
            Heath Bennett wrote:Birdy, would you be able to fit a Apple 17in Powerbook into the lowepro bags?  
HB,
 Sorry! don't know! never had an Apple in my life!  
                  
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			 by Heath Bennett on Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:14 am  
			
            Thats fine - it is a 17 inch laptop - roughly 17 inches diagonally. The Lowepro may be only for laptops up to 15 inches? 
                  
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			 by birddog114 on Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:18 am  
			
            Heath Bennett wrote:Thats fine - it is a 17 inch laptop - roughly 17 inches diagonally. The Lowepro may be only for laptops up to 15 inches?  
Lowepro has about 80  model of bags, and some of their bags can housing a full size of a Mitsubishi 22" CRT.  
                  
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			 by Heath Bennett on Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:23 am  
			
            Ok    
Does the Computrekker or Minitrekker carry 17 inch laptops?
 At the mini-meet I would like to pick up the DK-17 for D2x, would you like me to email the order or is it fine?  
                  
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			 by birddog114 on Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:30 am  
			
            Heath Bennett wrote:Ok    Does the Computrekker or Minitrekker carry 17 inch laptops?  
 Perhaps the computrekker, not the Mini trekker At the mini-meet I would like to pick up the DK-17 for D2x, would you like me to email the order or is it fine?   
If I still have stock, stocks were shipped yesterday from our supplier.  
                  
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			 by HappyFotographer on Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:43 am  
			
            I might just pop in and collect my methanol if that is OK Birddog.
 
 Sean has his grandfinal game at 11:30, so I will need to be there for that.....if my nerves can hold up.  Having a son as goalie is exhausting and nerve wracking, he is either the star or the baddie depending on the score.
 
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			 by wendellt on Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:28 am  
			
            Heath Bennett wrote:Ok    Does the Computrekker or Minitrekker carry 17 inch laptops? At the mini-meet I would like to pick up the DK-17 for D2x, would you like me to email the order or is it fine?   
Heath 
 I have the minitrekker along with my d2x, 1lonely planet mini book, the manual and my 50mm lens, it has absolutely no room to accommodate my apple ibook2 which is a 12inch ibook.
 Now at one point I had my 50mm lens on the D2x it has a smaller profile, i managed to fit my 12" ibook in there but the zippers did not meet up
 you definaetly need a bigger lowepro bag to hold all your goodies.  
                  
            
		 
		
			
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			 by huynhie on Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:08 pm  
			
            There is a good chance that I'll make it to this one as originally I had a round of golf planned but it looks like there will be intemittant rain on Saturday    
                  
            
		 
		
			
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			 by krush0 on Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:38 pm  
			
            [1/2/4Gb Transcend 80x CF cards 
 Lowepro minitrekker
 Giotto Air Rocket + Bubble Level Spirit (limited stock) and won't have it until December at Xmas party when stock is sold out.
 DK-17M, DK19 for D2x
 
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 Where did you get the DK=17M ?  I am after
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			 by birddog114 on Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:41 pm  
			
            krush0 wrote:[1/2/4Gb Transcend 80x CF cards  Lowepro minitrekker Giotto Air Rocket + Bubble Level Spirit (limited stock) and won't have it until December at Xmas party when stock is sold out. DK-17M, DK19 for D2x
  If I may ask Where did you get the DK=17M ?  I am after one myself .
  Mark  
I ordered them from my supplier    
                  
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			 by krush0 on Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:43 pm  
			
            Any chance of getting one ? 
                  
            
		 
		
			
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			 by birddog114 on Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:13 pm  
			
            krush0 wrote:Any chance of getting one ?  
If I still have stock after fullfil the backorders  
                  
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			 by krush0 on Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:17 pm  
			
            Ok 
 When will you know.how much and how can I get it from you     
                  
            
		 
		
			
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			 by birddog114 on Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:20 pm  
			
            krush0 wrote:Ok  When will you know.how much and how can I get it from you      
The only way you'll know or get it by coming to our mini meet and you'll have more opportunities to grab it on site.
 Have you seen or tried it?  
                  
            
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			 by krush0 on Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:27 pm  
			
            Yes I have seen it and know exactly what it is 
 I dont know where your mini meet is -still  how much is it please. 
                  
            
		 
		
			
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			 by birddog114 on Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:32 pm  
			
            krush0 wrote:Yes I have seen it and know exactly what it is  I dont know where your mini meet is -still  how much is it please.  
It was listed in the following thread and for qualified member only:
 http://www.d70users.com/viewtopic.php?t=1573 
                  
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			 by stubbsy on Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:44 pm  
			
            krush0 (Mark?)
 
In order to become a full member - and so gain access to the bargains on the forum - the rule of thumb is that you need to have made roughly 30 meaningful posts, submitted an image for critique and added your location to your profile.  This is all about establishing you want to be an active member of the community.  You are part way down that track with your posts, I'd suggest you also add your location to your profile.  Attendance at a mini meet is also viewed favourably and often sufficient for people with post counts lower than 30 to become a full member.
 As you'd realise already none of this is particularly honerous, but it is designed as a small disincentive to those who want to jump in, obtain bargains and leave without actively contributing.  This is particularly important since birddog does all the ordering and delivery etc for no personal benefit (ie it's not a business he's running).
 Please note - I'm not suggesting you're a bad guy, just helping you out with the rules.   
I see you're a  moderator at Nikonian's so you probably know where we're coming from with this. I'm guessing you already have a camera too (a D2x?), so apart from adding your location to your profile you'll no doubt have some good pics to show us too. That's two down & one to go
 Welcome to the forum.  With any luck I'll get to say hello to you on Saturday.      
                  
            
		 
		
			
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