Sony RX1 - FF compact

[chrisk]

WOW !!
didnt that come outta nowhere. kudos sony. looks AWESOME. (albeit absurdly priced)
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/09/12 ... ns-compact

[Matt. K]

Very interesting. Sony are getting serious. Nikon and Canon need to get their act together before they find themselves out in the cold. Remember Kodak?

[aim54x]

So this is a bit like the Hexar AF....how long till we see the equivalent to the Hexar RF?

[Matt. K]

Cameron. That's the new Fuji.

[surenj]

Typical Sony pricing.

I reckon this will be their next minidisc.

[aim54x]

Cameron. That's the new Fuji.

I beg to differ....the Fuji would have to have a Full frame sensor to be the Hexar RF (and a native M-mount)..the X-Pro 1 was close

[aim54x]

Typical Sony pricing.

but the masses will still buy it....look at the RX100 (CX sensor for the price of an APS-C SLR)

[sirhc55]

Typical Sony pricing.

I reckon this will be their next minidisc.

Surely you mean BetaMax

[gstark]

Typical Sony pricing.

I reckon this will be their next minidisc.

Surely you mean BetaMax

I looked at the RRPs in the presser, and thought WTF are they thinking?

[ozimax]

$2800 USD for a fixed 35mm camera? Not likely.

Having said that, I purchased a Sony DSC F707 in December 2001 for just a tad under $3K. It was a titanium wonder at the time, until I stumbled upon a wretched website called "D70users", which plummeted me into buying endless boxes of DSLR camera gear....

[Remorhaz]

I looked at the RRPs in the presser, and thought WTF are they thinking?

They were probably looking at other cameras in this space and on seeing the Leica M? figured they'd make it just less than that

[chrisk]

B-A-D A-S-S !!!

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2012/10/0 ... o-samples/

[Matt. K]

Rooz
Thanks for posting that link. The low light examples are pretty impressive! Anyone remember Nikon and Canon? They really need to get their stuff together because they are getting left behind. Take your lesson from KODAK guys because that's what happens when you get too confident.

[chrisk]

That camera is so exciting to me.
I did pick up a d800e and 24/1.4 today though so I'm kinda...ahhhh....broke ! lol

[aim54x]

Those samples look pretty impressive

[ozimax]

Indeed they are impressive but at what cost? I thought the X100 was expensive at $1100ish but almost 3 grand for a fixed lens? I don't think it will fly off the shelves....but I may be wrong. I understand with a Leica etc as they generally appreciate (or hold their own) in value, but I can't see this happening with a Sony.

[the foto fanatic]

Yes, terrific!

But...

What it is saying to me is that you would be spending somewhere of the order of $3k for a camera that is good for only a couple of types of shooting, low light and street. Maybe landscape would get a look in too, but my point is that there are too many styles that it will not satisfy.

[Reschsmooth]

Rooz
Thanks for posting that link. The low light examples are pretty impressive! Anyone remember Nikon and Canon? They really need to get their stuff together because they are getting left behind. Take your lesson from KODAK guys because that's what happens when you get too confident.

Those B&W shots look cleaner than many 3200 ISO film negs I have seen (and shot), even pulled at 1,600. Impressive.

[chrisk]

BOOYA !!!!
RX1 scores a 93 on DXO.

So the top 10 sensors are basically completely dominated by Sony. That's bloody impressive.

[Murray Foote]

That's actually the top 10 conventional bayer sensors. DxO have said that they have no plans to test the newer Fuji cameras because their testing process is specific to conventional bayer sensors. The same presumably applies to the Sigma DP1 and DP2 Merrills. If these were included, Sony sensors would still take the top spots with D800, D600, RX1 but there might be more competition below that.

Curiously, I notice that Nikon Rumours reports that the new Nikon 5200 has a Toshiba sensor.

[chrisk]

Yes that toshiba thing was an interesting little twist I don't think anyone predicted. I wonder if given sonys emergence and significant progression in dslr-ish cameras in their own right, nikon are testing some sensor contingencies. If sony pulled their support for nikon then they'd be in a world of hurt.

[Murray Foote]

That's a possible motivation given that Sony are already in such a place. They're losing billions of dollars each year and though they seem committed to their photographic division there has to come a time when the proverbial hits the thing that whirls around in the air.

[aim54x]

I am glad to see that Nikon is experimenting with alternative fabs, Sony has benefited hugely from Nikon's design inputs for sensors over the years and it really is showing.