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by kipper on Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:53 pm
Sorry Redline, mines bigger than yours PS, struggling to get it look like the way it does in Photoshop. Looks perfect there, sky is too blue in web and the shadows aren't defined as much as PS.
<img src="http://www.morganpost.com/F1GP/FA18_1.jpg">
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by birddog114 on Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:55 pm
kipper wrote:Sorry Redline, mines bigger than yours PS, struggling to get it look like the way it does in Photoshop. Looks perfect there, sky is too blue in web and the shadows aren't defined as much as PS. <img src="F:\Photos\F1GP\Website\Photos\FA18_1.jpg">
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by Glen on Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:58 pm
Kipper this the URL for your shot: file:///F:/Photos/F1GP/Website/Photos/FA18_1.jpg
Mate, you can't link to your F drive. Host it somewhere like pixspot. 
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by kipper on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:01 pm
Roffle, it was the wrong URL that I was posting 
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by Glen on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:03 pm
Easy to do Kipper, we don't all work in IT like many here 
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by kipper on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:04 pm
I used to, but even if you do it doesn't always gaurantee from not doing it 
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by birddog114 on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:05 pm
Kipper,
You're cheating!  It's a plastic model
I luv it!
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by birddog114 on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:06 pm
Kipper,
It's also nicer if you have CPL on!
It'll make the blue sky little bit darker against with the color scheme of the airframe.
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by BBJ on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:07 pm
Looks good to me kipper, ok well we seeing all these other pics but the ones that you all went to see, where are the F1 car pics,haven't seen any yet. LOL
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by MHD on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:07 pm
STUNNING!
That is a great shot..
Man I got to get me that VR + TC combo!
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by birddog114 on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:08 pm
BBJ wrote:Looks good to me kipper, ok well we seeing all these other pics but the ones that you all went to see, where are the F1 car pics,haven't seen any yet. LOL
BBJ,
He doesn't care about the cars, he just want to be a paparazi 
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by birddog114 on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:09 pm
MHD wrote:STUNNING!
That is a great shot..
Man I got to get me that VR + TC combo!
MHD,
How many times have you said? 
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by Glen on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:09 pm
Birddog, or Killa or Nikon Boy, you guys may know, do the pilots & ground forces tell who is who by electronic signalling devices? I remember reading that and after looking at the flying kangaroos on this plane, I couldn't imagine trying to ID a plane by them at 700 kph 
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by kipper on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:10 pm
Hehehe......I took 1000 photos in 3 days. Please be patient while I sort through them all 
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by BBJ on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:11 pm
VR would not have made any differance to that shot at is was at 1/1000 so yeh dont need VR to shoot at that speed.
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by birddog114 on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:14 pm
Yes. both sides can! even the IP can tell who's his student by the way the pilot flies the aircraft in an attacking or approaching mode.
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by kipper on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:14 pm
Yeah it's funny that BBJ, I had VR on for most of the time I was at the GP and I was shooting for the F1 cars > 1000. Then I experimented today because I felt at times the VR was hampering snapshots. The VR to me at times felt like it was over compensating and I wasn't framing the shots, missing bits of the car out of the frame. So I tried it without, and I felt that I could pan at variable speeds (ie. fast->slow pan).
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by robw25 on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:17 pm
MHD wrote:STUNNING!
That is a great shot..
Man I got to get me that VR + TC combo!
MHD....... get yourself a 200-400vr and you wont need a t/c ......mmmm wonder how it would go with my 1.4 t/c on it
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by birddog114 on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:18 pm
kipper wrote:Yeah it's funny that BBJ, I had VR on for most of the time I was at the GP and I was shooting for the F1 cars > 1000. Then I experimented today because I felt at times the VR was hampering snapshots. The VR to me at times felt like it was over compensating and I wasn't framing the shots, missing bits of the car out of the frame. So I tried it without, and I felt that I could pan at variable speeds (ie. fast->slow pan).
VR won't affect the panning and won't cause any overcompensation.
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by kipper on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:19 pm
You sure Birddog? Maybe it was just my imagination. Will have to play with it some more and see.
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by birddog114 on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:20 pm
MHD....... get yourself a 200-400vr and you wont need a t/c ......mmmm wonder how it would go with my 1.4 t/c on it
You don't need the TC on it but it's nice to have it on! perhap with 1.7.
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by BBJ on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:21 pm
I hardly ever have VR on as no good with panning as it sences when it is panning and switches off i think in fast panning. VR be good with some things like birding and so on but anything hight speed i think it make a lot of differance, but handy to have.
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by kipper on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:21 pm
Rob, true but the 70-200VR +TC is a quarter of the price of the 200-400VR. With the TC it takes you upto 370-380MM. While you lose a few fstops, and a bit of quality....for the money it's damn good 
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by birddog114 on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:22 pm
kipper wrote:You sure Birddog? Maybe it was just my imagination. Will have to play with it some more and see.
I'm sure and it's all in the manual + practical.
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by MHD on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:22 pm
hehe...
Bit out of my leage at the moment but I can dream 
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by kipper on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:22 pm
Yeah I was thinking that with the 200-400VR with a TC you could of got some nice shots of the helmets and some really good closeups of the airplanes. Then again with a D2X you could just crop!
fdsafasfasfas!
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by kipper on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:24 pm
hehe... Bit out of my leage at the moment but I can dream
It was out of mine too, I just don't have a wife to moan at me and complain about how we couldn't afford it 
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kipper wrote:Yeah I was thinking that with the 200-400VR with a TC you could of got some nice shots of the helmets and some really good closeups of the airplanes. Then again with a D2X you could just crop!
fdsafasfasfas!
How soon are you going to make a deposit for your house? 
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by kipper on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:26 pm
Whats that, you can live in the D2X aswell?
OMG, is there anything it can't do!
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by birddog114 on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:29 pm
kipper wrote:Whats that, you can live in the D2X aswell?
OMG, is there anything it can't do!
Oh yeah! once you have the D2x + 200-400VR + 70-200VR + TC-1.7, then you don't need the house, someone will let you stay free 
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by MHD on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:29 pm
D2X(on HS crop mode)+1.7*TC+200-400VR= Super Sports camera!
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by kipper on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:34 pm
Oh yeah! once you have the D2x + 200-400VR + 70-200VR + TC-1.7, then you don't need the house, someone will let you stay free
I wouldn't be suprised
Speaking of the gear performing tricks. I had the D70 out, 70-200VR on with the TC. People were taking shots of the gorgeous girls nice and close to them, I stand about 5-10m away and Im taking shots. The girls see the gear and as by magic they all turn and pose. I was impressed.
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by robw25 on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:34 pm
i would like a d2x only because of the frame rate for sports, otherwise the d70 does me " just fine "
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by Catcha on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:35 pm
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Bigger is alway better hey  show us those piccys
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by birddog114 on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:38 pm
kipper wrote:Oh yeah! once you have the D2x + 200-400VR + 70-200VR + TC-1.7, then you don't need the house, someone will let you stay free
I wouldn't be suprised  Speaking of the gear performing tricks. I had the D70 out, 70-200VR on with the TC. People were taking shots of the gorgeous girls nice and close to them, I stand about 5-10m away and Im taking shots. The girls see the gear and as by magic they all turn and pose. I was impressed.
kipper,
Listen! when you have the D2x + 200-400VR, some young ladies will pose for you, hand their biz cards to you and ask you to call, same as our BBJ, he had done a photo shoot for a guy who was flying at his local airport.
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by redline on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:38 pm
i guess i was right on the money

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by kipper on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:40 pm
Rob, yep....thats what I was saying to Birdy earlier. Imho the D70 just doesn't cut it for sports (or even papparazi shots). The F1GP proved that to me. You get a lot of keepers but the speed of the D2X would leave the D70 for dead and would result in a lot more different shots that might of not turned out on the D70. Also the higher resolution means you can crop in to say half of the car without it looking pixellated.
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by birddog114 on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:41 pm
robw25 wrote:i would like a d2x only because of the frame rate for sports, otherwise the d70 does me " just fine " cheers rob
Rob,
Please don't get me wrong, the D2x can do more and lot better than the D70 for you. Even the D2h at 4MP.
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by robw25 on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:51 pm
[/quote]Rob,
Please don't get me wrong, the D2x can do more and lot better than the D70 for you. Even the D2h at 4MP.[/quote]
birddog
i have all the glass covered except for the 85-1.4 all i need is a faster frame rate..... are you saying the d2x or d2h take better photo's than the d70 ?
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by kipper on Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:54 pm
It's tempting isn't it Rob 
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by robw25 on Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:00 pm
kipper.... it's not temping ....no it's not .... no .... no ... oh please not the lust again !!!!!
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robw25 wrote:
Rob, Please don't get me wrong, the D2x can do more and lot better than the D70 for you. Even the D2h at 4MP.[/quote] birddog i have all the glass covered except for the 85-1.4 all i need is a faster frame rate..... are you saying the d2x or d2h take better photo's than the d70 ? cheers rob[/quote]
D2x has twice the number of pixels for the same or lower noise and according to what I have read a real good auto WB
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by kipper on Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:05 pm
Arghh......stop the voices inside my head. Please, take it away!
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by birddog114 on Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:06 am
Rob,
Even the D2h has 4MP but its performance and its features more better than the D70. D2h gives you more well balance with the big glasses and its body built with solidity, comfy in your hand.
Yes, definetely, the D2x is superb in comparison with the D70 with all aspect.
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by gstark on Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:51 am
Birddog114 wrote:kipper wrote:Yeah it's funny that BBJ, I had VR on for most of the time I was at the GP and I was shooting for the F1 cars > 1000. Then I experimented today because I felt at times the VR was hampering snapshots. The VR to me at times felt like it was over compensating and I wasn't framing the shots, missing bits of the car out of the frame. So I tried it without, and I felt that I could pan at variable speeds (ie. fast->slow pan).
VR won't affect the panning and won't cause any overcompensation.
Actually, I was experiencing what Kipper is describing here too.
It's not so much overcompensating, but the VR retaining its hold on the previous image before it releases it, but you're already wanting to move on to the next one.
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by Banjo on Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:58 am
kipper .... Do you think the ladies would be worried what number is on the camera so long as it has the right name and looks the part ? if they do i might have to look at upgrading myself. 
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by kipper on Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:08 pm
Gstark, hmm....never thought about the previous shot hampering it.
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by gstark on Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:24 pm
kipper wrote:Gstark, hmm....never thought about the previous shot hampering it.
That's how I was seeing it. Under normal circumstances you can see the VR release its hold on the lens about a quarter of a second after you make the exposure. That's exactly what I was seeing under the faster moving scenarios as well.
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by kipper on Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:34 pm
Did you end up living with it, or turning off the VR all together?
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by birddog114 on Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:36 pm
I didn't notice that on my D2h  nor the D100
Haven't got my D70 here, it's on loan, so I can't tell.
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