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How Not To Drive

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:38 pm
by BBJ
Hi All well here is a few pics from my afternoon, all pics with 300m with 1.4x kenko so 420m and a very dusty day so stayed up wind.
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Ok MotoX tomorrow, so another big day.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:58 pm
by oli
Haha! Great sequence. That looks dangerous though (even with the roll cage)!

Did the backend bounce off the side after the second shot? It looks strange the way it's being launched into the air from the rear like that.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:23 am
by Killakoala
Awesome sequence. Number four is the pic of the bunch, the moment before the roll-over. Well done and great positioning.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:55 am
by Alpha_7
Number 3 and number 4 are great!! I agree looks a tad dangerous, but I guess these guys are professional, so then know how to minimise the risks.

Steve like your new sig.
:P

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:23 am
by Geoff
Bloody unreal BBJ! Was he alright???!?
You're doing so well!!
Congrats mate...awesome stuff!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:39 am
by mdboo
YES number 4 is excellent ! I wonder what was going through his mind at that time?? :shock:

Min

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:24 am
by Geoff
=BlackWater= wrote:YES number 4 is excellent ! I wonder what was going through his mind at that time?? :shock:

Min


Hmmmm 'holy sheeeeet, hold on...no..don't tense up..go with the roll, sheeeet this is gonna be faaaaaaaaarrrrrkkkkk....(ka thump a de de dump...roll tumble...roll roll) whoa...hey..I'm still in one piece...WOOOHOO, hope someone got a shot of this, hmmm my neck hurts' :)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:45 am
by marcotrov
Great series Chris. I hear the driver is looking for another co-driver. Apparently the other one was ejected somewhere around frame 3 or #4. :lol: Any offers? :shock: :lol:
cheers
marco

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:24 am
by Geoff
marcotrov wrote:Great series Chris. I hear the driver is looking for another co-driver. Apparently the other one was ejected somewhere around frame 3 or #4. :lol: Any offers? :shock: :lol:
cheers
marco


Hi Marco - I think you'll find it was John (not Chris) that took this images :)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:33 am
by sirhc55
Excellent series John - my only thought in a situation like that would be ”where will my bum be at the end of this” :wink:

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:34 am
by Geoff
sirhc55 wrote:Excellent series John - my only thought in a situation like that would be ”where will my bum be at the end of this” :wink:


Chris - you're up early for a Sunday!! You ok? I just got home!! Hehehe.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:38 am
by gstark
Ahhhh ... such fun. Brings back memories of the days when I used to navigate in rallies.

Alpha_7 - it's unlikely that these guys will be professional. Just a couple of clubbies out for their form of recreation, just as a more normal person might go for a jog or a swim or play footy.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:55 am
by BBJ
Oli yes u r right it did hit the embankment and it all went wrong from there but he got out ok.

Gary is also right this was a club day/nite meet so these guys are locals making the most of it all. He was not the only 1 to come unstuck at this corner as a friend of mine did as well but he got a front flat tire as he came into this, but didn't roll it.

Was a good arvo lots of dust tho and wish i had a faster FPS and well after next week i will when my D2X arrives. A few small fix ups on this car and he was back into it a lil bit later on, car looking a bit worse off but didn't stop him.
Check left hand front tire.
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Cheers

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:06 am
by gstark
John,

Ahhhh ... ye olde 180BSSS! A great car, but not a patch on the old 1600, which is probably one of the best ever cars to have come out of Japan.

I hope your friend has strengthened the trailing arms in that car.

But at least, being the SSS, he has the Hitachi electrics.

The sedans were locally assembled, and had electrics by Lucas, the Prince of Darkness. Amongst the more common problems were altenator failure, and also failure of the wiper assembly, which included a very waek pressed metal connecting rod between the motor and the wipers, and which would fatigue very quickly.

Whereas replacement of those parts was quite routine on the sedans, it was unheard of on the coupes. Mind you, for a rally you'd be beefing up the alternator anyway, and possibly even running dual altenators.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:32 am
by Jeff
John

Great series of shots ,thanks

Jeff

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:04 am
by Alpha_7
gstark wrote:Alpha_7 - it's unlikely that these guys will be professional. Just a couple of clubbies out for their form of recreation, just as a more normal person might go for a jog or a swim or play footy.


Eeep!! Thanks for clearing that up, glad I picked photography as my new hobby, seem such safer, but maybe not quiet the adrenaline rush.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:17 am
by gstark
Craig,

Actually, properly conducted, motor sport is a very safe pasttime.

The safety features that are in the cars these days are really quite effective. What I find incredible is watching the guys on the bikes, who regularly come off at all sorts of speeds, have other bikes run across the top of them, roll over a few times for good measure, and they just get up, dust themselves down, and walk away!

And people say that I'm crazy! :)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:37 am
by Potatis
Great series, John, brilliantly captured. :D

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:02 pm
by BBJ
Thanks All, Gary there are still lors of 1600's around as we had a few when we was younger and great cars for this type of action, was a few there yesterday, anyhow just got back from MotoX so stay tuned for How not to ride a Bike. LOL

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:15 pm
by KerryPierce
Terrific series, John. I really enjoyed it. :D

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:30 pm
by Slider
Awesome sequence John. Well caught :D

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:45 pm
by elffinarts
gstark wrote:John,

Ahhhh ... ye olde 180BSSS! A great car, but not a patch on the old 1600, which is probably one of the best ever cars to have come out of Japan.

I hope your friend has strengthened the trailing arms in that car.

But at least, being the SSS, he has the Hitachi electrics.

The sedans were locally assembled, and had electrics by Lucas, the Prince of Darkness. Amongst the more common problems were altenator failure, and also failure of the wiper assembly, which included a very waek pressed metal connecting rod between the motor and the wipers, and which would fatigue very quickly.

Whereas replacement of those parts was quite routine on the sedans, it was unheard of on the coupes. Mind you, for a rally you'd be beefing up the alternator anyway, and possibly even running dual altenators.


shit mate you sure know your cars!
I'd like one of these orig SSS's or certainly the 1800, either way I'd be shoehorning the SR20DET from an S15 into it, managing that with a Motec electronics system and trying to keep it visually as close to being a sleeper as I could without compromising on ride quality.

All I can say to these pics is that I'm dead jealous! Pity the D2X hadn't arrived earlier for BBS. Makes me want to head back out to Warwick raceway and give my wife some more defensive driving practice. *chuckles* Not good for insurance reasons though. :( lol

The third shot of the first series really works for me. Not much fun being stuck in a car at the very moment you're kinda just only able to hold on and not control that car in any way whatsoever. Glad he had a rollbar! hehe

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:53 pm
by BBJ
Thanks Mark , yes Gary knows his cars, and well they are great cars and well this lil gemini is a bit knocked up but yeh i like these cars, 1 of them a bloke i know has a Mazda rotary think it might like a 323 or something and doesn't it go like the clappers and screams it's guts out. Love it.
When i was younger we had 2 of these dato's 1600's and had a lot of fun in them, through a set of webber carbys on the and tickle them up a bit and you are all set for fun. Anyhow stand by the days bike pics soon as i finish processing them.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:21 pm
by ozimax
Nice shots here John, hope you weren't too close to the action! Rally driving must be the craziest sport on earth, IMHO.

Max

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:21 pm
by elffinarts
BBJ wrote:Thanks Mark , yes Gary knows his cars, and well they are great cars and well this lil gemini is a bit knocked up but yeh i like these cars, 1 of them a bloke i know has a Mazda rotary think it might like a 323 or something and doesn't it go like the clappers and screams it's guts out. Love it.
When i was younger we had 2 of these dato's 1600's and had a lot of fun in them, through a set of webber carbys on the and tickle them up a bit and you are all set for fun. Anyhow stand by the days bike pics soon as i finish processing them.


The 1600's are certainly still very tough cars. Witnessed a street race north of Brisbane where a GTR Skyline owner had to eat humble pie courtesy of a very plain looking 1600 that had a very high PSI SR20 turbo setup. The racket that car made was incredible and I've only seen other cars take off faster on a real 1/4mile track. Just a pity these lads weren't playing on a real track. |:

Brisbane is frustrating like that though. It's a bloodly long drive out to anywhere decent for legal racing since Lakeside was shut down.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:43 pm
by BBJ
Max i had the 300m with the 1.4x Kenko so 420m and i was out of the road off to 1 side, this is why when it rolled i had no zoom to get the whole car in frame. There was so much dust and with the breeze we had i stayed down on a corner to shoot them coming around and advoiding the dust.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:48 pm
by Dug
great sequence ! Lots of fun ! I would be giving them a call and offering them prints.

What was going through his mind? "Bugga"

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:11 pm
by BBJ
Dug i think the word Bugger might be an understatement, mind you he was back into it later on, maybe after a quick change jocks maybe.LOL

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:21 pm
by Willy wombat
I like these ones a lot. Top series - congrats on taking such good shots.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:50 am
by Glen
John, great sequence. You do seem to be in the right place

PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:51 am
by gstark
elffinarts wrote:shit mate you sure know your cars!


Let's just say that I've spent more than my fair share of time in, and under, a fair few rally cars.

We started in a 1300, 6V VW. That car was a mobile blackout!

The Datsun 1600s were far better, and far more fun. In those days we just upgraded the engine to 1800SSS or 200B donks, and did what we could with the engine, plus, of course, shortened the gearing.

And I can recall being sweep on one event in Narooma, for which Gerry, who normally drove for me, was th director. We happenned across this 1600 with the left rear wheel collapsed under the car. I stopped the car, we looked at one another, smiled, and we then called out to the crew "Drop a trailing arm, did we?"

"How did you know?" was their response.

:)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 3:55 pm
by elffinarts
I've just spent far too much time under my own car and other pulsar club members' cars - engine swaps, upgrades of suspension and brakes ect.

Been entertained for years by the pain and issues suffered by friends who have worked on Austen Healy Sprites and other classics.

Hope to upgrade to a Pergeot 206GTi 180hp toy that will not need upgrades or specialised insurance and that will get me out to willowbank raceway for photography without overheating during the race seasons.

Still laughing my ass off at BBJ's "quick change of jocks" comment :lol: So appropriate. Wish someone had gotten a shot of either my face as I slid in the wet one night and hung the car over a decent drop or ..... better still, gotten a shot of my friends face as his car slid off the side of a cliff on Mt Glorious and then rolled down over lantana about 6 times coming to rest right way up and only partially bruised and scratched.