5 and a half pictures from last days of Floriade. DL Warning

Got a thin skin? Then look elsewhere. Post a link to an image that you've made, and invite others to offer their critiques. Honesty is encouraged, but please be positive in your constructive criticism. Flaming and just plain nastiness will not be tolerated. Please note that this is not an area for you to showcase your images, nor is this a place for you to show-off where you have been. This is an area for you to post images so that you may share with us a technique that you have mastered, or are trying to master. Typically, no more than about four images should be posted in any one post or thread, and the maximum size of any side of any image should not exceed 950 px.

Moderators: Greg B, Nnnnsic, Geoff, Glen, gstark, Moderators

Forum rules
Please note that image critiquing is a matter of give and take: if you post images for critique, and you then expect to receive criticism, then it is also reasonable, fair and appropriate that, in return, you post your critique of the images of other members here as a matter of courtesy. So please do offer your critique of the images of others; your opinion is important, and will help everyone here enjoy their visit to far greater extent.

Also please note that, unless you state something to the contrary, other members might attempt to repost your image with their own post processing applied. We see this as an acceptable form of critique, but should you prefer that others not modify your work, this is perfectly ok, and you should state this, either within your post, or within your signature.

Images posted here should conform with the general forum guidelines. Image sizes should not exceed 950 pixels along the largest side (height or width) and typically no more than four images per post or thread.

Please also ensure that you have a meaningful location included in your profile. Please refer to the FAQ for details of what "meaningful" is.

5 and a half pictures from last days of Floriade. DL Warning

Postby Willy wombat on Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:56 am

OK so Floriade is now over again for another year. For all those who didnt make it down i hope that you enjoy my lastest effort.

Black hearts
[img]http://www.fototime.com/{218B8A69-2DF1-4A44-A83E-3DB83697FDC4}/picture.JPG[/img]

Delicious strawberries and cream
[img]http://www.fototime.com/{FF8B9EED-E014-4A8D-B633-26A82C8E684A}/picture.JPG[/img]

A different take on that image (the half image)
[img]http://www.fototime.com/{377A572B-E3E0-4B19-80FC-B21257BC67A2}/picture.JPG[/img]

Pano
[img]http://www.fototime.com/{5E445817-7127-4EB3-97F5-D6DA34F47390}/picture.JPG[/img]

Interesting structures
[img]http://www.fototime.com/{32964920-890A-4986-BBC1-6307AE67A2CC}/picture.JPG[/img]

Cola cups
[img]http://www.fototime.com/{CA34FB44-019A-4530-88B0-D30FE2156F9F}/picture.JPG[/img]
Steve (Nikon D200/D700)
My photography website http://wwphoto.redbubble.com/
My photo blog http://www.redbubble.com/people/wwphoto
Please feel free to offer any constructive criticism on my works
User avatar
Willy wombat
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2284
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:47 pm
Location: Bentleigh, VIC Australia

Postby Willy wombat on Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:08 pm

So these ones failed to tickle anyone's fancy? :?

Feel free to comment on why they didnt work for you.

Cheers
Steve (Nikon D200/D700)
My photography website http://wwphoto.redbubble.com/
My photo blog http://www.redbubble.com/people/wwphoto
Please feel free to offer any constructive criticism on my works
User avatar
Willy wombat
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2284
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:47 pm
Location: Bentleigh, VIC Australia

Postby marcotrov on Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:31 pm

On the contrary William Wombat. Generally this series is very much to my liking. There is so much to like including perspective, colour, post processing, technique you used, sharpness etc.
I really like
#1, for its pattern and boldness (perhaps a tad of reflected light on the flowers themselves, tweak up the saturation (or polarizer?)
#3 for its creative impressionistic appeal its a real piece of art and as such should be framed
#6 Ditto as for #3 they are both 'wall hangers'
As for general comment for the rest that are also good but could do with adjustments to the distracting backgrounds. #2 certainly clone out the spot light in topleft corner and reduce visual distraction of background treeline.
Other than that I just wish they were my images :wink:
cheers
marco
marcotrov
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2577
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:21 pm
Location: Cairns, Queensland, Australia

Postby stubbsy on Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:42 pm

Shaun

I'll start with the bad :wink:

#1 - if you're going for this effect (black flowers) I'd do the stems the same. It just looks weird with the colour burnt out of the flower, but not the stem. Shot doesn't work for me

#4 - the pano. Ditch the pink frame. It REALLY distracts from the flowers

#6 - nope. Too weird looking.


Now the good

#2 & #3 - the PP on #3 version looks good and has more appeal for me than the original. A keeper

#4 - this is a really good capture and I like the PP


Odd one out for me is #5 - can't put my finger on why, but this looks really strange like the flowers are somehow disconnected from their stems. Like I'm looking at two half pictures joined in the middle.

Sorry for not being more enthusiastic, but they really don't pop.
Peter
Disclaimer: I know nothing about anything.
*** smugmug galleries: http://www.stubbsy.smugmug.com ***
User avatar
stubbsy
Moderator
 
Posts: 10748
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:44 pm
Location: Newcastle NSW - D700

Postby kinetic on Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:43 pm

I really really really like the first image. Did you tweak this image much? or are the flowers really that deep blackish-red colour?
I'm not a big fan of the images with the "painted" effects (sorry, don't know the correct terminology) - but anyway, that's just a personal taste thing, you've certainly done a great job with all of the pics.
kinetic
Member
 
Posts: 234
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:17 am
Location: North Ipswich

Postby christiand on Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:07 pm

Hi WW,

I like 2 and 4 the best.
2 is my favourite, I like the composition, the colours,
the contrast; it is very cool.

Cheers,
CD
User avatar
christiand
Senior Member
 
Posts: 1989
Joined: Sat Aug 14, 2004 1:36 pm
Location: Tuggeranong, ACT - Canberra

Postby Dug on Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:30 pm

I like 1 and 5 I went to floriade but have not processed the photos as yet I found it a bit boring Sorry but too many tulips :D


Finding different ways to photograph them is a real challenge.

Well done a good effort overall in a strangely difficult subject.
User avatar
Dug
Senior Member
 
Posts: 1082
Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:58 pm
Location: maroochydore Q

Postby Willy wombat on Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:22 pm

marcotrov wrote:On the contrary William Wombat. Generally this series is very much to my liking. There is so much to like including perspective, colour, post processing, technique you used, sharpness etc.
I really like
#1, for its pattern and boldness (perhaps a tad of reflected light on the flowers themselves, tweak up the saturation (or polarizer?)
#3 for its creative impressionistic appeal its a real piece of art and as such should be framed
#6 Ditto as for #3 they are both 'wall hangers'
As for general comment for the rest that are also good but could do with adjustments to the distracting backgrounds. #2 certainly clone out the spot light in topleft corner and reduce visual distraction of background treeline.
Other than that I just wish they were my images :wink:
cheers
marco


Cheers Macro for taking the time to make a comment on my post. Your comments were very helpful. I guess at the end of spring everyone is flowered out. I should have got in earlier! :lol:
Steve (Nikon D200/D700)
My photography website http://wwphoto.redbubble.com/
My photo blog http://www.redbubble.com/people/wwphoto
Please feel free to offer any constructive criticism on my works
User avatar
Willy wombat
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2284
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:47 pm
Location: Bentleigh, VIC Australia

Postby Willy wombat on Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:26 pm

stubbsy wrote:#1 - if you're going for this effect (black flowers) I'd do the stems the same. It just looks weird with the colour burnt out of the flower, but not the stem. Shot doesn't work for me

#4 - the pano. Ditch the pink frame. It REALLY distracts from the flowers

Sorry for not being more enthusiastic, but they really don't pop.


Hi Stubbsy - Its Steve, not Shaun, but that is cool.

#1 is actually a picture of black (well dark purple) tulips so i didnt actually convert them or do a treatment - they were just dark flowers. But thanks for your valid comments.

#4 Pink frame - I think you could be right there, but i was in an experimenting kind of mood.

Thanks for all your honest feedback - I DO appreciate it. Sometimes i need to hear if the images are not quite there as i tend to build them up in my mind when i am processing them and sometimes i need to be slapped down. :wink: :lol:
Steve (Nikon D200/D700)
My photography website http://wwphoto.redbubble.com/
My photo blog http://www.redbubble.com/people/wwphoto
Please feel free to offer any constructive criticism on my works
User avatar
Willy wombat
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2284
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:47 pm
Location: Bentleigh, VIC Australia

Postby Willy wombat on Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:31 pm

Dug wrote:
Well done a good effort overall in a strangely difficult subject.


I agree Dug - It is very difficult to be different with this subject.
Steve (Nikon D200/D700)
My photography website http://wwphoto.redbubble.com/
My photo blog http://www.redbubble.com/people/wwphoto
Please feel free to offer any constructive criticism on my works
User avatar
Willy wombat
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2284
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:47 pm
Location: Bentleigh, VIC Australia

Postby stubbsy on Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:06 am

Willy wombat wrote:
stubbsy wrote:#1 - if you're going for this effect (black flowers) I'd do the stems the same. It just looks weird with the colour burnt out of the flower, but not the stem. Shot doesn't work for me

#4 - the pano. Ditch the pink frame. It REALLY distracts from the flowers

Sorry for not being more enthusiastic, but they really don't pop.


Hi Stubbsy - Its Steve, not Shaun, but that is cool.

#1 is actually a picture of black (well dark purple) tulips so i didnt actually convert them or do a treatment - they were just dark flowers. But thanks for your valid comments.

#4 Pink frame - I think you could be right there, but i was in an experimenting kind of mood.

Thanks for all your honest feedback - I DO appreciate it. Sometimes i need to hear if the images are not quite there as i tend to build them up in my mind when i am processing them and sometimes i need to be slapped down. :wink: :lol:

Steve :oops: I'm usually good with names, my apologies.

#1 - OK makes more sense now. Never seen flowers that "black"
Peter
Disclaimer: I know nothing about anything.
*** smugmug galleries: http://www.stubbsy.smugmug.com ***
User avatar
stubbsy
Moderator
 
Posts: 10748
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:44 pm
Location: Newcastle NSW - D700

Postby johnd on Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:41 pm

Steve, with images #1 and #5, you may be able to get a bit more definition and contrast into both the petals and stems by bumping the mid tones in shadows/highlights (I assume you're using Photshop). For my flower images, I have found that bumping mid tones really brings out the texture of the flowers, making them almost leap out at you. When bumping mid tone contrast, you need to compensate with both shadows and highlights as you adjust the mid tones. Give it a go and see what you reckon with the results.

On the pink frame issue, I've played around with different coloured frames, using complimentary colours from the image etc, and like Stubbsy says, it tends to detract from the image. I find the black framing effect works best for me (like you did in the other images).
D3, D300, 14-24/2.8, 24-70/2.8, 85/1.4, 80-400VR, 18-200VR, 105/2.8 VR macro, Sigma 150/2.8 macro
http://www.johndarguephotography.com/
User avatar
johnd
Senior Member
 
Posts: 1342
Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:14 pm
Location: Sandy Bay, Tas.

Postby drifter on Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:52 pm

#1 #2 and #5 are standouts . Beautiful . The view in the first one makes them appear huge .Nicely done . Really like the symetry of #5 .
As mentioned by a few others i'm not real keen on the pink frame .
User avatar
drifter
Member
 
Posts: 372
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:37 pm
Location: Croydon -Sydney


Return to Image Reviews and Critiques